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thewayneThe New York State Attorney General is investigating that the practice of MSG is discriminatory, especially with the notorious false rate of positives vs minorities and women.
MSG replies 'Nuh uh.' Their main rebuttle is that such a small class of people are affected, i.e. a very small subset of attorneys.
What I'm curious about is we all recognize the 'We may refuse service to pretty much anyone if we want' right of businesses to ban people. But that's usually for specific behavior: theft, starting a fight, etc. The use of facial recognition by MSG - as reported - is blocking people whom MSG management has simply said 'we don't like these people' - even though they still sell them the ticket, they just won't let them in the door. It's not much different from an Alabama diner in the '50s with a sign that says 'No Coloreds', just a different type of class - attorneys that are not directly involved in litigation vs MSG as opposed to skin tone.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/01/msg-probed-over-use-of-facial-recognition-to-eject-lawyers-from-show-venues/
MSG replies 'Nuh uh.' Their main rebuttle is that such a small class of people are affected, i.e. a very small subset of attorneys.
What I'm curious about is we all recognize the 'We may refuse service to pretty much anyone if we want' right of businesses to ban people. But that's usually for specific behavior: theft, starting a fight, etc. The use of facial recognition by MSG - as reported - is blocking people whom MSG management has simply said 'we don't like these people' - even though they still sell them the ticket, they just won't let them in the door. It's not much different from an Alabama diner in the '50s with a sign that says 'No Coloreds', just a different type of class - attorneys that are not directly involved in litigation vs MSG as opposed to skin tone.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/01/msg-probed-over-use-of-facial-recognition-to-eject-lawyers-from-show-venues/
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Date: 2023-01-28 12:57 am (UTC)Not that I plan on getting to NYC any time soon, but...
Hugs, Jon
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Re: In Case You're Wondering About the Parent Company:
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Date: 2023-01-29 02:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2023-01-28 05:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2023-01-28 07:17 pm (UTC)AI, interesting things going on there, it's definitely causing major tumult in a lot of areas, especially art and writing. I've played with AI art generators, and I find them to be interesting toys.
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Date: 2023-01-29 10:50 pm (UTC)Yes the AI does seem like a fun toy. I have a few other friends here who play with it but then my imagination goes to the future and what it could do.
Well ...
Date: 2023-01-28 05:39 pm (UTC)If they sell the ticket but refuse its use, then they have committed fraud by causing people to believe they have purchased the right to use the ticket to enter the venue.
Re: Well ...
Date: 2023-01-28 07:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2023-01-31 09:47 pm (UTC)Also, as was noted above, I wonder if there's a contract law angle about selling tickets to someone who you have already banned from the venue, and that you know will be banned from the venue, and therefore they should not be sold the ticket in the first place.