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I'm not going to be talking about the company per se. I'm talking about a generalized problem with AI and a very real problem with the worldwide growth of data centers.

This company just built a supercomputer with 22,000 H100 GPUs. That is TWENTY-TWO THOUSAND EXTREMELY HIGH-END SPECIALIZED GRAPHICS CARDS.

This computer consumes THIRTY-ONE MEGAWATTS OF POWER. That is how much power 6,000 HOMES consume in a DAY.

There are questions as to how this almost constant construction of data centers are going to be powered. For example, in Dublin, Ireland, they have a moratorium in building data centers in the town center because they can't power them without cutting power to the residents! And there are more important questions as to how all this heat will be dealt with.

A few months ago I posted about a data center in England that put a pod of computers into a mineral oil bath and is using a heat exchanger to help heat a local pool. That's pretty awesome. But there are a finite number of pools that need heating. Microsoft and others have been experimenting with putting pods of data centers underwater for cooling.

But the demand for AI has just begun. I just read an article about Y Combinator, a tech startup incubator, over 35% of new projects coming to them for assistance are AI.

We have not yet begun to truly cook this planet! Makes me glad that I'll be gone in 20-30 years or fewer.

Oh, and those H100 GPUs? Can be used for no other purpose. Like crypto mining cards, they can be used for only high-intensity computing. Now, those 22,000 cards don't represent 22,000 computer chassis. They can put like 10-20 cards in one chassis. The cards are designed with no fans and the chassis have big forced air and water-cooling systems to keep them cool. Very different from most conventional PCs.

So the next time someone says global warming isn't real, tell them about ONE supercomputer eating the power of 6,000 homes!

Date: 2023-07-07 11:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] disneydream06
This computer consumes THIRTY-ONE MEGAWATTS OF POWER. That is how much power 6,000 HOMES consume in a DAY.
WOW, that is ridiculous. :o :o :o
Hugs, Jon

Date: 2023-07-08 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
Build houses for the homeless, and give them free wifi.

Date: 2023-07-08 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
Apparently, in places where they tried the simplest solution - give every homeless person a home - it didn't fail as spectacularly as people expected. It actually sort of worked.

Date: 2023-07-08 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
Yep - guaranteed basic income DOES work. And people are more likely to work at something like making art if they don't have to wonder whether they're ever going to eat a full meal again in their life. A full belly is great inspiration. ANd giving homeless people homes turns out to solve the problem of homelessness. Who ever believed all that liberal commie hippie stuff about "helping one's fellow humans" turns out to WORK.(Does anybody remember when the British solved the drug addiction problem by giving the junkies prescriptions for opioids? People can work hard for a living if they have the drugs to dull the pain. (And high-functioning alcoholics can do the same.) I once knew an old news reporter who was never sober a moment in his life. When a major emergency hit the city, Merv handled the reporting with perfect finesse. Then when the threat was avoided. Merv broke down in tears and went for the bottle of bourbon in the bottom left desk drawer.Great at dealing with adversity, but no good at dealing with success.
Edited Date: 2023-07-08 10:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2023-07-08 05:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silveradept
Uuuuugh. That's an entire waste of all that power and chips. There's no private company doing anything that would be socially good with that kind of power consumption and computing resources.

Date: 2023-07-08 05:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blue_green_dream
I read an interesting proposal years ago that involved using heat from data centers to warm peoples' homes. I'm not sure exactly how it would work, but it did sound intriguing.

There really needs to be more work done to figure out how we can capture waste heat on both small and large scales to help with power generation. It may not be practical in all instances, but there are probably plenty of cases where it could make a discernible difference. Some scientists are already looking into it.
Edited Date: 2023-07-08 05:37 pm (UTC)

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